Ever wished you'd let sleeping dogs lie...
After a direct email to their institutional subscription site and a conversation with Mark Danderson, there is some dialogue now beginning to take shape. There are some technical problems with accessing their High wire version with Athens and Mark is thinking about that. However the pricing they are thinking of charging for what is effectively the most recent 3 months worth of NEJM is so out of the ball park it's probably not worth the hassle negotiating. We shall see...
I did say to Mark that their ears must be burning over the pond, considering the heat generated on LIS Medical...
The proper conversation is started methinks!
Wednesday, November 17, 2010
More on BMJ
Well, things are looking up a bit. BMJ have now contacted me and will be coming back with a price for the three month period to the end of this financial year and for London access from April 2005. The price should be with me by the end of this week. Which gives me precisely three weeks to sort something out for continuation of service in January - my last working day is Friday 17th December. Needless to say I made BMJ know that their lack of contact and response to my increasingly vocal emails over the past months was pretty poor.
BMJ - what is going on??
As most of you know, electronic BMJ is effectively free. We've had it included in our general subscription of BMJ journals (a collection of around 25+ journals published by BMJ) although we don't actually "pay" for it. From January 1st, the electronic BMJ will be charged for. At present, we are not precisely sure how much it will cost to provide across London and I'm not getting any response back from BMJ- which is a little frustrating....
We were hoping that a joint deal with Higher Education and the National Core Content would happen to enable continued access to BMJ - and at no extra cost to London - but that seems to have been disbanded due to cost.
As far as I know - from 1st January until 31st March we still should have access to BMJ through our present BMJ Journals subscription - although we may well have to pay something for this access come the new financial year. We have pricing for the BMJ collection but that doesn't include BMJ itself and I have been trying to get someone to commit to a price but am not having much success at present.
We are getting several enquiries into eKAT on what is going on with BMJ, so I thought I would let you know of the current state of play.
We were hoping that a joint deal with Higher Education and the National Core Content would happen to enable continued access to BMJ - and at no extra cost to London - but that seems to have been disbanded due to cost.
As far as I know - from 1st January until 31st March we still should have access to BMJ through our present BMJ Journals subscription - although we may well have to pay something for this access come the new financial year. We have pricing for the BMJ collection but that doesn't include BMJ itself and I have been trying to get someone to commit to a price but am not having much success at present.
We are getting several enquiries into eKAT on what is going on with BMJ, so I thought I would let you know of the current state of play.
Friday afternoon
Apologies for any curt replies to emails or telephone calls this afternoon as I will be sorting out the non-nhsnet / don't know where I work people to send to lucky Athens administrators. If I were still sharing an office with Barbara, I would be contributing heavily to the swear box. No wonder Mel looks drained after sorting this lot out! Ho hum! Will compensate by putting the headphones on and listening to Uriah Heep. Found it cheap - honest.
Second non-work related blog...
Went to see Bill Bailey at the Apollo in Shaftesbury Avenue with my daughter last night. We were waiting for a 14 bus right opposite. The non appearance of said bus, the biting cold forced us across the road to purchase tickets for the gig. Em, my daughter, has been down from St Andrews Uni this week (reading week... are these students ever working???) and had already been to see him on Monday night but she was up for a second showing.
Was excellent. Very quick on the improvisation and an accomplished musician. If he releases the Hokey Cokey in the style of Kraftwerk before Christmas, it will Christmas No.1.....
Think he finishes on 4th December so get in quick for a good laugh
Was excellent. Very quick on the improvisation and an accomplished musician. If he releases the Hokey Cokey in the style of Kraftwerk before Christmas, it will Christmas No.1.....
Think he finishes on 4th December so get in quick for a good laugh
Blogging Block
Had a conversation with Jane Williamson (NCL) yesterday who has taken the plunge with organizing a blog for LKDN (she is present chair).
After spending time last Friday setting the blog up and emailing all those who can access it - the Trust IT department came up with a policy that was instigated first thing Monday morning - not allowing access to blogs!!!
Well, at least she can read it anywhere else - other than work of course..
After spending time last Friday setting the blog up and emailing all those who can access it - the Trust IT department came up with a policy that was instigated first thing Monday morning - not allowing access to blogs!!!
Well, at least she can read it anywhere else - other than work of course..
123doc
email from Stefan Darke for those still having trouble getting in...
To log in correctly please follow the below steps.
1. Log in to your Athens account.
2. Click on to the 123Doc resource.
3. Click on to login on the left side menu on 123Doc's webpage.
4. Click on Athens login.
5. Please fill in the box with your email and address. If you already have
a 123Doc account it will ask you for your username and password, which you
will enter (123Doc username & password not Athens). The majority of users
will not have had a previous account so will have to supply your email and
address. Once this is done you will only have to do this once.
6. Click on Go Study then Online E-courses to gain access to our material.
To log in correctly please follow the below steps.
1. Log in to your Athens account.
2. Click on to the 123Doc resource.
3. Click on to login on the left side menu on 123Doc's webpage.
4. Click on Athens login.
5. Please fill in the box with your email and address. If you already have
a 123Doc account it will ask you for your username and password, which you
will enter (123Doc username & password not Athens). The majority of users
will not have had a previous account so will have to supply your email and
address. Once this is done you will only have to do this once.
6. Click on Go Study then Online E-courses to gain access to our material.
eKAT review
We've been so involved with the eKAT review over the past few days, I haven't really had time to think about practical stuff.
EBSCO - I went to talk to EBSCO direct last week, plus I've got a meeting with Richard Osborn, Louise and Isabel to check over licensing and access on the 4th October.
UCL and Middlesex Uni still have issues over assigning local material to the new nhs prefix, which relates to EBSCO and this looks like it will take some time and discussion to sort out. It is also clear that there is no protocol for adding of local resources to London's nhs prefix (or any other region). There are trusts that have local resources not thinking they can add the resources to Athens and there are others who have added stuff, but not thought of adding to the new prefix. Something for discussion on the 8th October.
Non-nhsnet machine self-registration and people who don't know where they work (apparently quite a few which is worrying) notifications to eKAT via Athens are being worked through. This week this hit 60 plus and these all need confirmation from Athens administrators. The process is working OK, but we are getting problems with Athens admin people not being able to easily confirm the people are legit. This is a process we need to look at.
123doc is another story which I haven't really had time to devote to...
EBSCO - I went to talk to EBSCO direct last week, plus I've got a meeting with Richard Osborn, Louise and Isabel to check over licensing and access on the 4th October.
UCL and Middlesex Uni still have issues over assigning local material to the new nhs prefix, which relates to EBSCO and this looks like it will take some time and discussion to sort out. It is also clear that there is no protocol for adding of local resources to London's nhs prefix (or any other region). There are trusts that have local resources not thinking they can add the resources to Athens and there are others who have added stuff, but not thought of adding to the new prefix. Something for discussion on the 8th October.
Non-nhsnet machine self-registration and people who don't know where they work (apparently quite a few which is worrying) notifications to eKAT via Athens are being worked through. This week this hit 60 plus and these all need confirmation from Athens administrators. The process is working OK, but we are getting problems with Athens admin people not being able to easily confirm the people are legit. This is a process we need to look at.
123doc is another story which I haven't really had time to devote to...
OVID Links up and Working
Thanks to Geoff Moon's quick work, we appear to have the links working to the new nhs prefixes. As I thought, we had sent some of the new site id codes to Ovid, but obviously not all! Anyway they work now.
Mr Knox of SLAM pointed out something useful to me on Friday. Medline - where it had them - provided direct links to Harvard Business Review articles whereas, PsycInfo - where it had them - just provided the abstract and no link. Having had a quick look, a lot of the PsycInfo titles - after the first few, were outside the range of the electronic journal, but those within don't link. Further investigation has produced the fact that PsycInfo don't provide the ISSN for HBR and therefore the linking won't work. This will probably not be enabled that quickly, but I will follow it with the American Psychological Association (APA) - they gave me a hard enough time when I was trying to sell PsycInfo and PsycLIT, so perhaps I can get my own back!!!
Short term is probably going to be a pain (and probably annoy Rheinardt at Imperial because I know he doesn't want us to encourage this...) but I still think that because of the nature of the journals in the EBSCO collection, which is primarily management, that using the EBSCO search interface is probably the most useful. It searches across the whole management collection and obviously, because the collection is fulltext, any hit will produce a full text article. DH Data would probably also produce some links to the management journals (as it is a health management database) but probably not as successfully unless the management information search is specifically medically focussed.
I will not be discussing the football result from Portsmouth as it cruel to mock the afflicted - those being the referee and his assistants who were obviously visibly challenged...
Mr Knox of SLAM pointed out something useful to me on Friday. Medline - where it had them - provided direct links to Harvard Business Review articles whereas, PsycInfo - where it had them - just provided the abstract and no link. Having had a quick look, a lot of the PsycInfo titles - after the first few, were outside the range of the electronic journal, but those within don't link. Further investigation has produced the fact that PsycInfo don't provide the ISSN for HBR and therefore the linking won't work. This will probably not be enabled that quickly, but I will follow it with the American Psychological Association (APA) - they gave me a hard enough time when I was trying to sell PsycInfo and PsycLIT, so perhaps I can get my own back!!!
Short term is probably going to be a pain (and probably annoy Rheinardt at Imperial because I know he doesn't want us to encourage this...) but I still think that because of the nature of the journals in the EBSCO collection, which is primarily management, that using the EBSCO search interface is probably the most useful. It searches across the whole management collection and obviously, because the collection is fulltext, any hit will produce a full text article. DH Data would probably also produce some links to the management journals (as it is a health management database) but probably not as successfully unless the management information search is specifically medically focussed.
I will not be discussing the football result from Portsmouth as it cruel to mock the afflicted - those being the referee and his assistants who were obviously visibly challenged...
Ovid / EBSCO linking
On top of only getting 26 points out of 60 in the pub quiz at the Ridgeway in Enfield last night, plus Fulham getting stuffed at home 2-0 by Middlesbrough, Charlie Leppington has pointed out that the Ovid journals links don't work on the new Athens id codes. Getting Ovid to check today and hopefully these will be up and running soon.
A conversation with Richard Steedon at EBSCO leads me to believe that the EBSCO Admin page can be used to sort out the local linking problems and he will contact the lead London EBSCO administrators over the next week to sort out the localisation problems. I will be going to EBSCO on the 8th September to talk over regional and local linking issues.
A conversation with Richard Steedon at EBSCO leads me to believe that the EBSCO Admin page can be used to sort out the local linking problems and he will contact the lead London EBSCO administrators over the next week to sort out the localisation problems. I will be going to EBSCO on the 8th September to talk over regional and local linking issues.
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